, look, i think president obama in some way invited this upon himself when he said after being elected in 2008 he wanted to have a cabinet that looked like america. that statement makes this criticism, i think, somewhat justified. he himself said that this was going to be a priority. not just in a first term presumably, but also in a cirqued term. that's why you're hearing maybe more of it than you might if he had never said something like that. >> kristin welker if jack lew gets confirmed as treasury saenkt, the chief of staff will be, fill in the blank. is it dennis mcdonough or ron klain. what white man is tliblg take the chief of staff job? >> well, it depends who you ask, andrea. depending on who you ask some folks think that it is dennis mcdonough, the former deputy national security advisor. some say it's ron klain, who is, of course, the former chief of staff for joe biden. the bottom line is, my sources are telling me, that the final decision has not been made yet, but we do believe that it's been whittled down between these two men. to your point about diversity, i've been ta